Problem?

[Bman505]

I was shooting today and had a sporadic issue with my Beretta. Only about 80% of the time on the last shot would the slide lock in the open position. I didn't happen all the time, but enough to concern me. Anyone have this happen before?

[rtuck77]

what kind of mag are you using and what ammo, and is the mag in good shape,check the slide stop/release and make sure it is working right. also check out berettaforum.net they have more info on this

[Garcia]

As rtuck77 said, this is probably a magazine problem. Did this happen with all the magazines you used, or just with one in particular?

Also, was your Beretta adequately lubricated?

You might want to contact Beretta...they may even replace the magazine.

[Jizzle]

i had a similar issue with a walther p99. the spring internal to the magazine was old and had lost some of it's "springyness" so to speak which was causing it to not quite come up to the apex and in turn not locking the slide back. it tends to happend quickly on magazines that are kept loaded to max at all times.

[Bman505]

The gun is brand new and only been shot twice. I do believe though that it was only one of the magazines causing this.

[Jizzle]

ya, i am not familiar with the construction of berretta magazines. but if u can take the spring out of a good one and put it in ur "questionable" magazine that should solve the issue pretty quick as to the cause of ur malfunction. on walther and glock mags u just pop the bottom of the mag off and the spring slides out.

[rtuck77]

thats the same with beretta mags

[rtuck77]

also check the folwer it may be damage that could also be the problem or at least part of it

[Descreet38]

I have about 30 years experience with Beretta. If you isolate the stated issue to one magazine first check to ensure the mag is locking in tight when you insert it. If so I would bet it is a bent lip which doesn't allow the follower to get quite to the top which is necessary to ensure locking the slide.

Although I don't think this is the case with you and a new gun I usually see this type of problem in one of two senarios. Either the owner conducts combat loading and drops his mag on a hard surfact (bending the lip) or where the mag is very dirty which hampers the follower or a faulty spring.

You stated the gun is new so I suggest that you go back to the dealer first and see if he will swap out the bad mag. If not a call to Beretta Customer Service should get you a swap.

I will suggest that you be patient waiting to actually speak to a human being but be polite yet firm once you do.

BTW - which model Beretta do you have?

[Jizzle]

there you go, someone with some berretta experience.

[Bman505]

It is the Beretta PX4 Storm SC. I will go try it out again and see if I can isolate the problem. Thanks for the tips everyone.

[Descreet38]

Yeppers - Although I was a part time officer at our local PD I was the assistant armorer. Our PD was mostly 92's with a very few S&W 5900 series.

I can completely strip a 92/M-9 to the last screw, pin and spring in my sleep.

Speaking of that you should see my little jar of left over gun parts. Hey if it still shoots - must not have needed that part anyway. :)

[Jizzle]

lol, i have had to qual many times with the m-9. i hate that gun so much lol. glock please.

[Descreet38]

Jizzle - have you carried it into close quarters combat? While you may hate it and I hope you never have the need, but if you do that gun can save your life. When the trigger on a 92 is pulled it goes BANG.

And yes I know of the jams etc experienced in Iraq. Cannot balme the pistol for the fact the US Gov't bought a cheap lousy magazine. I only use Beretta or MDS (owned by Beretta) mags and have never experienced a failure to load. I carried the same M-9 SOG modified for 5 years and put almost 100,000 rounds through it. Sure it requires maintenance and occassionally a replacement part to keep it running like a singer - but tell me about any gun that doesn't

I currently have over a hundred pistols in my collection but I carry a Beretta Cougar or M9 because I want the most dependable that money can buy to protect my family.

Of course that is why there is more than one make of firearm - different people have different opinions.

[rtuck77]

I carry a beretta 92fs and its the only handgun that I would bet my life on

[Jizzle]

to each there own is true, and i'm not putting anyone down for liking the M-9. I have shot and carried quite a few pistols in quite a few places, friendly and not so friendly. The M-9 is a pistol and it goes bang (what more can you ask for?). And yes, the only 9mm Berretta I've shot was government issue. So, maybe I should have more accuratly said: "I hate the Military Issue M-9 because they don't take care of them and go with the cheapest bidder for all of their armory support?" I did in no way mean to condemn berretta I was just expressing a personal opinion. I'm a glock guy, I have carried it in dust storms, rain storms, the snow, dropped it into the mud, and then shot it. The only time i had an issue was when i was using the lone wolf barrel i was talking about in another thread. and that was a reloading issue on my part.

on a brighter note. I'm getting a new toy soon. Sweet.

[rtuck77]

I have no hard feelings about you not likeing the m9. Its a matter of personal choice,I have shot glocks and I dont like them cause they jsut dont fit my hand right, no matter how I grab them they always seem to point down and I have to trun my wrist in an upward manner making it uncomfortable for me.

[Jizzle]

hmm for some reason i always always hit high when i use am m-9..... weird u would have the exact opposite problem with a glock...

[rtuck77]

been told that I am backwards cause I am left handed but just maybe they are right

[Jizzle]

im a lefty too

[Descreet38]

I shoot shoot right on with a Beretta - both the M9 and the Cougar

[Bman505]

I think I would be too if I was shooting 1300 rounds of ammo at a time at the range. Dez, you are one of a kind. I am glad you are here.

[Scooter]

Lefties, we're the only ones in our right minds

[Deacon Jim]

Lefties, we're the only ones in our right minds

Sounds like a great quote to me. I agree:D

[Jizzle]

yep. that we are. I know this is a berretta post, but, for what reason do people love the 9mm Parabellum round so much? Cause it's cheap to shoot? No recoil? I'm not being condesending. I honestly want to know.

[Descreet38]

Love for the 9mm is multi-fold. Some of the reasons over the past years are.

- availability of ammunition throughout the world
- effective one-shot threat stop
- caliber is controllable in hands of almost any shooter - big or small
- pistols can be made very small yet be strong enough to have a long service life
- versatile reloading
- round balistics performs very well in modern ammunition
- you can take a lot of ammo into the fight.
- acceptable compromise between large caliber few rounds
and the list could go on forever

[Jizzle]

(SNIP)
- effective one-shot threat stop.

This is the only thing that I am not sure about. I have seen all the ballistic data that i can get my hands on and compared it to 10mm/.40/.45acp/.357mag et. But, it's no substitute for actual experience. Any round I guess will drop what you need to drop with proper penetration/placement even a .22 LR hypothetically (in the extreme). I've just always wondered why the 9mm when you have bigger rounds that have more FPF/Joules and comparable recoil (depending on the gun). But, I guess it all comes down to: What can you hit the target with? What are you comfortable with? With what caliber/pistol is it easiest to do what you need to do? Everyone has their own spin. The moral is practice practice practice. Thanks Descreet.

[Descreet38]

.22LR - still the most used gun caliber in the hit business.

[Jizzle]

22lr + brain = scrambled eggs.. but, would u trust it for protection?

[Bman505]

I used to own a little .25 cal pocket pistol and I was always told that the actual bullets would bounce off someone. I never could find anyone to let me try it out.:confused:

[Jizzle]

haha, there was an incident in tennessee in which somebody thought they where 9mm proof. ill see if i can find the link.

[Jizzle]

i was wrong it was kentucky. here's the link.

http://www.timesleader.net/articles/stories/public/200901/23/4ccZ_news.html

[Jizzle]

looky what i found. check out the 2 names.

http://www.timesleader.net/articles/stories/public/200804/27/04Ml_news.html

sound familiar?

[taltyman]

(SNIP)
- effective one-shot threat stop.

This is the only thing that I am not sure about. I have seen all the ballistic data that i can get my hands on and compared it to 10mm/.40/.45acp/.357mag et. But, it's no substitute for actual experience. Any round I guess will drop what you need to drop with proper penetration/placement even a .22 LR hypothetically (in the extreme). I've just always wondered why the 9mm when you have bigger rounds that have more FPF/Joules and comparable recoil (depending on the gun). But, I guess it all comes down to: What can you hit the target with? What are you comfortable with? With what caliber/pistol is it easiest to do what you need to do? Everyone has their own spin. The moral is practice practice practice. Thanks Descreet.
My wife and I got our CC permit last year and during that training was the 1st time either of us had fired a handgun. I grew up with rifles & shotguns. She did pretty good with the range 9mm glock. I've been taking my time on purchasing a handgun since finances aren't that great and I didn't want to screw up a purchase with something she isn't comfortable with. About a month ago my sister and her husband stopped over and he had a .40 S&W (sorry don't know the model) and I shot it and the recoil seemed to be a lot harder than the 9mm glock. After my wife watched several of us shoot it she refused to even try saying the recoil looked too hard. Based on what you mentioned above what would be an example of a .40 that would have a similar recoil to the 9mm? Thanks

[Jizzle]

glocks are good. TBH i'm going to be purchasing my wife a glock model 19 which is the 9mm subcompact. I don't have anything personally against a 9mm. I just wanted to know what other people thought about them. I personally carry a 10mm. I had a .40 Walther that was a brute as far as .40 cals go and i've shot a S/W 40 that was almost as bad. I didn't like them. I'd say try a glock .40 (i've shot the glock and it's not bad at all in comparison) in full size and subcompact and also try an XD (i've not shot an XD but, their followers are almost as tenacious as glocks).

The heavier the gun the less the kick. Though you wanna make sure you get something that your wife is going to enjoy shooting a lot so that she gets the right amount of practice in. That way when the time comes to use it she won't be scared to shoot it and will be comfortable hitting what she's aiming at. Thats what it's gonna come down to honestly. Practice, if you don't like shooting the gun you have you won't practice and you won't wanna carry it.

So, if she likes the 9mm then cool. Get one. If she likes a .40 also I'd def go with the .40 compared to the 9mm but that's me. I am a fan of bigger, but not at the expense of not being able to hit what ur aiming at.

my 10mm kicks in between a .44 mag and a .357 and it's entirely managable, if you are looking for a carry gun for urself. it's faster than a 9mm and it's 40 cal which = more power. glock makes 2, the 29 (subcompact) and 20 (full size). However if your wife didn't like that S/W .40 she probably won't like a 10mm.

Hopefully I was able to help you out.

[taltyman]

That really helps. Thanks Jizzle

[Jizzle]

Glad to be of assistance.

[Bman505]

I know it is not a .40 cal but my sisters both shot my Beretta PX4 Storm sc and they both loved it. My little sister had never even fired a pistol before and she handled it well. It is a little on the heavy side and the recoil is very minimal.

[taltyman]

I know it is not a .40 cal but my sisters both shot my Beretta PX4 Storm sc and they both loved it. My little sister had never even fired a pistol before and she handled it well. It is a little on the heavy side and the recoil is very minimal. Did you solve the original problem you had with it?

[Bman505]

I do believe it is a clip issue. I haven't been out to the range since the last time. I gave it a real good cleaning and oil'n. We will see how it does.

[Jizzle]

im goin got the range in la luz tomorrow morning around 9 if anyone wants to meet up. a buddy and my wife are gonna be there also.

[Bman505]

Would love to, but I have to work.