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[AussieRogue]

OK a question for all of you

My wife Is starting to get a bit pissed about me wearing my gun when we go out. As most of you know I can not CCW as New Mexico will not give a CCW to a non citizen such as me so I open carry which is legal here. So she said today to ask you all and see what you says about it she is worried that someone will try and take it away from me what do you think about it

John

[rtuck77]

I am sure about the law in NM but as long as you are following the law I see no reason for anyone to take it away(law type)anyone else taking it away would not be advised to do so but that my thought

[Garcia]

You might look at this web site and see if you qualify. It lists the eligibility requirements for a Florida non-resident CCW.

http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/weapons/eligible.html

PM me if you have questions.

Richard
Riclin Firearms Training

[Bman505]

As in the government trying to take away your right to carry openly?

[AussieRogue]

As in the government trying to take away your right to carry openly?

No someone coming up and taking it as in a BG ;) and for some reason she is thinking that open carrying will some how screw up my permanent residency or future citizenship

[Bman505]

Here is what is says on usacarry.com http://www.usacarry.com/new_mexico_concealed_carry_permit_information.html

Open Carry:
Unrestricted in most public areas and generally accepted.

[Jizzle]

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[AussieRogue]

ask her if she is scared of it because she doesn't understand it. then ask her if you carried a pocket knife openly would she feel the same way. explain that a gun is just a tool like a knife or anything else. it's there for a specific purpose. guns (in my experience) do not have a mind of their own, do not attract BGs lol if anything it scares the **** outta them and if she's not used to shooting. get her a little .22 LR pistol to take to the range and enjoy learning how much fun shooting is and all the responsibilities that it entails.

also tell her she watches to much TV. :)
so do the cops unfortunately, the whole "what if a BG wants to hurt someone and uses your gun to do it" scenario is one of their favorites.. absurd.

She likes the 40 cal Glock LOL no I think she is just worried about my residency and citizenship LOL

[Pistolpakrz]

Mrs. Aussie Rogue:

Been thinking about your husband's posting the question of your being upset about his open carry. Rest assured my comments come with the utmost respect for you and the Mr.
Think maybe I understand your anger. Your Mr. and some of the replies missed the pt. in my opinion. Could it be that his need to flaunt a gun has blinded him so much that he can't see this need could place you and the kids(if you have 'em)in harm's way? Granted 99% of BGs are probably deterred by open carry. But what about the 1% that don't care and ARE bigger, badder, & street smarter than the Mr.? It only takes 1 guy (or gal) to take that gun away & use it on him, you, or the kids! It's similar to being a cop; there's always someone that isn't scared of the badge, gun, tazer, or nightstick. It's that 1 person that sees a person carrying a gun in plain view as a challenge, cop or civilian. It's that 1 person that can/will kill you! The Mr. says "That'll never happen to me"? He's only fooling himself and you!
The need/desire(?)to flaunt a sidearm maybe says something about a person(by the way, there are cops who are just as bad). In my humble opinion anyone who uses a quirk in the law to justify open carry when they can't do it any other way has some deeper issues. The fact your Mr. had to put this issue out for others to comment on says he's just looking for others who think the same as him. Putting you down and making condesending comparisons SHOULD make you mad!
I sincerely hope even though it may only be for your sake and the kids' sake that your Mr. wises up (or grows) up before he meets up with that 1 person. It's kinda sad to think that your Mr. might have lost sight of the love you have for him as husband and father, just 'cause he feels the need to display a gun. Anyway, enough soap box talk. Don't back down -- I think you have reason to be angry!

[Jizzle]

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[Descreet38]

Lets ALL look at it this way. The "facts" in this case are as follows.

1. the individual is not an American citizen so under the state law where he lives he cannot get a CCW.
2. Under that same state law he can carry open so he chooses to do so.
3. As stated by many people many times. - It's better to carry and not need it than to need it and not be carrying.

Tis better to be open minded than to be opinionated. After all that is the bulk of what every CCW is facing in the general population.

We can only wish that carrying a concealed weapon follows the same path that motorcyclists did. Remember- 50 odd years ago a person on a motorcycle was an "EVIL" person. Now look at where motorcycles are today. Half the time no one even notices them to the point of pulling out in front of them.

I just hope it doesn't take as long.

[Pistolpakrz]

(descreet, its just for you that i don't drop down to the level of obsenities.)

PistolPakrz you are a TROLL in the very definition of the word. I cannot and will not begin to address the beginning nor end of where you are so very factually, logically and morally incorrect. Sir, you are an example of someone who'd opinion is both uneducated and poorly thought out. I hear that north Korea is in need of a new successor to Kim Jong Il. Please apply.

MODERATORS ON THIS SITE:

It's too bad that someone can't express an opinion or share an answer to a question posted by somebody else, without being called names. If someone doesn't want to hear thoughts or opinions that are different than his/hers, they shouldn't ask the question or make the statement and then invite comments. (If I remember right, Jizzle wasn't even the one that asked the question to begin with, but sure seems to take my thoughts personally.)
So cussing gets bleeped because kids might read it, but name-calling is OK on this "family" site? I'm very disappointed in this site.

[Descreet38]

Pistolpakrz -

sorry but I completely missed that one until now.

[Jizzle]

Des ill apologize to you or any of the other moderators if i'm out of line. After this next post i won't be responding to anything that pistol posts.

[AussieRogue]

People I just asked a simple question and some of you gave me some very good answers others did not so let it stop here

[Jizzle]

First you appear to sympathize with Mrs. Rogue, then explain that he has a need to “flaunt” his weapon. Do you know this man? Are you able to make an educated opinion on this subject? Or do all people that open carry have a “need to flaunt a gun”?

Are you a psychologist? How do you make a determination as to Mr. Rogue’s frame of mind and mental health? IE. (Snip) “In my humble opinion anyone who uses a quirk in the law to justify open carry when they can't do it any other way has some deeper issues”. Four times in your post you refer to his “need to open carry” “need to flaunt” “need to display” “the need/desire(?) to flaunt) a gun. What are you basing your “humble opinion” off of?

You are a member of this site and I would assume (possibly erroneously) that you carry concealed. Why is it that you carry? Your stats are poorly thought out, but I’ll use them for the sake of argument. Hypothetically speaking 99% of all BGs are deterred by Open carry in your opinion. How many are deterred by concealed carry? 0%? So by your own flawed logic you are submitting yourself to 100% of BGs because you are deterring none and you therefore subjecting yourself and family to a much higher risk than Mr. Rogue.

And if you do not carry then logically your risk would be compounded even more so. Or are you of the school of thought as to not resist a violent crime lest you be injured or killed? It’s a violent crime. You will be hurt or killed and your only recourse is to meet violence with violence in that situation.

At what point did Mr. Rogue make a condescending comparison to anything or anyone and when did he put his wife down?

Are you a lawyer? If the law allows for open carry not to mention the Constitution of the United States, how is it a quirk? It’s one of the foundations for America. If this is a “quirk” then all the laws that the USA has instituted since the writing of the Constitution are quirks because they are all based off of the constitution (sometimes rather loosely) and that includes the laws that govern your concealed carry. Making, by your logic, your ability to conceal carry legally, a quirk of the law.

The “one person” you refer to is someone that I hope none of us ever comes into contact with. But, they are out there and no matter what you do, that “one person” will not be deterred no matter what you do. Carry preference is inconsequential. The fact that he carries increases his chance to handle the threat adequately. And that is not my opinion. That is cold hard fact. Let me refer you to a multitude of personal testimonials on any open carry/concealed carry site.

Your post is based off of your own emotions rather than fact or any logic. You are hitting below the belt of Mr. Rogue without proper cause. You owe him an apology and should in the future think out your responses more thoroughly prior to answering.

I won't be responding further on this thread or any other to you pistol.

[Bman505]

Please remember, This is a forum and everyone has there rights to their opinions. Please do not bash someone for doing so! ONE of the great thing a forum has to offer is the ability to get several different opinions from several different people. Just be tasteful please and respect each other. Thank you

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